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PostSubject: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 24th 2010, 11:17 pm

Discuss/post scores for Can Can here.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2010, 11:43 pm

I believe this song is HIGHLY overstepped >.> it was a bit ridiculous. Yet, that's only my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2010, 11:47 pm

Hey, as long as you know it's your opinion, it's fine.

The basis of the chart is similar to that of how many notes you'd be hitting on the piano if you were to play it; if there's a note on the bass clef and a treble, you get two notes, bass alone or treble alone, you get one. It's pretty much fully pitch relevant too.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2010, 11:47 pm

I really believe its much harder than a 29 lol to add to what sara said
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2010, 11:48 pm

>.> I've known how to play piano since I was 5 AJ. Didn't need a piano lesson.

Agreed to what Frankie said too.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 1:16 am

MOTHER FUCKING MINDBLOCK x.x
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 4:18 am

This should be around 31, because the ending is like wtf compared to the rest of the song.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 4:03 pm

Bob bob wrote:
This should be around 31, because the ending is like wtf compared to the rest of the song.

Read bolded section.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 4:10 pm

relevant climax theory
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 5:45 pm

True, but you gotta bear in mind thats files like made in saltima is an fgo because of one part.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 5:52 pm

saitama solo isn't climax theory, that's solo theorawry
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 5:55 pm

made in saitama he didn't even want to put as an FGO and neither did I but we knew that everyone would harp on it being an fgo. So before we could get reamed out for it we just put it up there. You gotta take a chart and evaluate it for the whole thing not just one particular section. The rest of this chart is quite simple it just has a harder ending. I mean hell look at charts on FFR the ending of for ffr is probably enough to push it to an 11 or how about legendary etude the ending is more like a 10 or chaoz japan which is a 9 but really probably should be a 10. You can't look at a difficulty for only one section of the chart you have to look at it fully then average it out.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 5:57 pm

saphira wrote:
made in saitama he didn't even want to put as an FGO and neither did I but we knew that everyone would harp on it being an fgo. So before we could get reamed out for it we just put it up there. You gotta take a chart and evaluate it for the whole thing not just one particular section. The rest of this chart is quite simple it just has a harder ending. I mean hell look at charts on FFR the ending of for ffr is probably enough to push it to an 11 or how about legendary etude the ending is more like a 10 or chaoz japan which is a 9 but really probably should be a 10. You can't look at a difficulty for only one section of the chart you have to look at it fully then average it out.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 6:00 pm

Bob bob wrote:
True, but you gotta bear in mind thats files like made in saltima is an fgo because of one part.

You also have to understand that the difficulty jumps based on the extremity of how hard this said part is. Saitama gets boosted a lot because you're doing sections of bursts that exceed 25 TPS, plus a huge run of 20+ TPS at the end of the solo.

Same thing goes with songs like Crowdpleaser. The song is really easy, but the trill requires you to go 33 taps per second...faster than FFR even renders. Can Can doesn't even have anything that can be considered "extreme" - the song's speed isn't anything ridiculous.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 6:01 pm

Plus guys remember we just started this new rating system and are working on it. It takes some adjusting for all of us but in the long run this system will be so much better than just having 13 difficulties. Plus also look at it this way there's no stats right now so really the difficulty rating isn't having that much of an effect on anyone atm.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 6:04 pm

Well that's a theory, but for that reason you could call Novo Mundo a VC, but most people consider it a FMO because of one part, the rolls at the end.
And yes, we can argue about "but novo is a vc" or not, the thing is that back when ffr was up, a single part could change the difficulty, For FFR is another example.
But that's the old way most people are still a bit used to, over here stuff is being approached from a different angle, so I won't tell you what to do or not.

Edit: And the two things I said were basically said in the two posts before me Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2010, 6:15 pm

Either which way you look at it the song can be rated higher or stay at the same it is. It's a jumpy file when it comes to difficulty. Now Saitama imo is a really high 11 most likely the cut off if you ask me. The solo is in fact the hardest part of that song. But can be easily jump jacked if done correctly. You really just gotta look at it in everyones point of view, what may be easy to some may be really hard to others. Personally I love the 13 point rating system idk why either .... with 50 it just gets confusing as to whats exactly what anymore cause im so used to the 13 pt. So like, I'll play songs like the final hour and see the difficulty and be like huh? who the eff made it THAT high not remembering its on a different scale. meh, whatever floats your boat Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJuly 1st 2010, 3:18 am

Halogen- wrote:
Bob bob wrote:
True, but you gotta bear in mind thats files like made in saltima is an fgo because of one part.

You also have to understand that the difficulty jumps based on the extremity of how hard this said part is. Saitama gets boosted a lot because you're doing sections of bursts that exceed 25 TPS, plus a huge run of 20+ TPS at the end of the solo.

Same thing goes with songs like Crowdpleaser. The song is really easy, but the trill requires you to go 33 taps per second...faster than FFR even renders. Can Can doesn't even have anything that can be considered "extreme" - the song's speed isn't anything ridiculous.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up, and it will help me look at files in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJuly 1st 2010, 3:21 am

idk what anything is on the new difficulty scale lol

and the ending of for ffr isn't really anything worth bumping the difficulty up since it's just rolls


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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJuly 1st 2010, 10:58 am

how about "overdone"? -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Can Can   Can Can Icon_minitimeJuly 1st 2010, 11:34 am

and the artist is not SHK hahaha :3
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